The Scottish leg follows a daily back-to-base model based around St Andrews. The Irish leg follows a point-to-point itinerary as e seek circulate around the south and south west. The key to the West Ireland with St Andrews Golf Vacation however are the flight schedules. This determines the structure we might need to adopt and the order we have to do things in.
West Ireland has an international airport (Shannon) with three direct daily routes to the US (New York, Boston and Chicago). What it doesn’t have are a reliable routes to Scotland (three flights to Edinburgh a week). These Scottish flights tend to appear on different days for different months of the year, and at different times on different days (often inconvenient ones). Flight schedules are only confirmed later than the likes of Ballybunion, Lahinch and Tralee need booking. The previous seasons schedules rarely prove reliable for the following season. It’s all a bit hazardous
There are however one or two flights from Edinburgh to Cork each day, even if the time(s) move around schedule quite alarmingly day to day. This often means we can utilise Cork, and start something off using Old Head
The optimal way of doing this would be as a ‘Scottish sandwich’, which is St Andrews in the middle, bookended by two Irish legs. The first of these would be the incoming section where we’d look to play north of the River Shannon (Lahinch and maybe Doonbeg) before flying from Shannon Airport to Edinburgh (if such a flight exists). The return leg would be fly Edinburgh to Cork, and then play Old Head, Waterville, Tralee and Ballybunion in sequence (provided we can navigate Tralee’s visitor restrictions) which will bring us back to Shannon Airport and the return fare home (which is often less expensive than the Edinburgh return fare)
It’s quite rare that we can make this work however, and it’s not unheard of for us to need to criss-cross the country and use Dublin to link all this up for what often looks like a clumsy solution (but at least it works). Unless we can fly back ‘open jaw’ without penalty, we could easily discover we need to try and get a connecting flight to Edinburgh or add significant mileage and use Dublin as our hub
A typical West Ireland with St Andrews Golf Vacation is laid out as a ten night duration that observes a mixture of a point-to-point itinerary (Ireland) and back-to-base (Scotland) , staying at:
The final sequencing is however vulnerable to airline schedules which will typically only be confirmed at a point later in the booking cycle. We might need to shuffle the deck a little
The West Ireland with St Andrews Golf Vacation is one of the most fluid we run in terms of it’s architecture. This is due to a combination of some quite rigid visitor restrictions that operate in west Ireland and flight schedules between Shannon and Scotland which are wildly erratic (and late to publish).
Structurally we want to aim Weds to Sat at St Andrews to give ourselves the best chance on the Old Course ballot. What this means is every course is offering us permutations of Mon and Tues or Thurs and Fri, and its difficult to fit 10 courses into the same six days
The structure, and routing we have to use therefore can alter quite dramatically, (especially if we’ve had to utilise Dublin to make up for the limitations at Shannon)
As its laid out in the website, this is a medium mileage tour and medium intensity.
We estimate a total of 625 miles and approximately 19 hrs 30 mins, which is an average of just under 2hrs each day (largely the result of the Scottish leg)
The Scottish leg easier and could conceivably be ‘done’ using a hired driver if we preferred. We wouldn’t advise or encourage anyone to attempt the Irish leg using a hired driver. Not only will this become expensive, it could leave us horribly exposed in the event of a failure
The West Ireland with St Andrews Golf Vacation probably doesn’t have the depth of luxury offer in west Ireland without going a little bit out of our way to consistently offer this travel class across the board. Having said that, Adare Manor would certainly fit the description of luxury, albeit we might categorise that as ‘uber-luxury’
The more likely offer is going to be Premier and Affordable options
As ever, the scale of non-golf activity depends on whether we’re adding extra value for golfers, or building a stand alone proposal for non-golfers to run alongside a golf programme. The West Ireland with St Andrews Golf Vacation exhibits a fairly strong correlation between golf and non-golf, with many genuine points of interest co-existing, although we should acknowledge that the Irish leg is a bit weaker
The following courses operate the following handicap thresholds for gentlemen and ladies respectively
Unlike some courses who needn’t be rigid in enforcing their handicap thresholds, the St Andrews Links Trust will do. Failure to provide evidence will result in a refusal to allow us to play
The Old Course diary is available on-line to consult for availability and is dynamic in so much as it changes every season, although there are some known block outs that occur every year, notably the first week of May, the first week of June, and a run from early/ mid September to early/ mid October
There is no play on the Old Course on Sunday
Carnoustie, whilst usually being open 7 days of the week, will allocate visitors to afternoon tee-times at the weekend
Ballybunion doesn’t permit visitor play at weekends or afternoons
Lahinch doesn’t permit visitor play at weekends
Tralee only permits visitor play Mon, Tues, Thurs & Fri
With all the usual disclaimers of a lottery being random, and there being no such thing as a certainty etc plus the variable factor of availability for the specific week chosen, our prospects of winning a ballot on this programme would otherwise be considered as good (if we sought to use every opportunity to do so).
We should be able to contest four open ballots (Weds, Thurs, Fri & Sat) and at least three ‘singles’ ballot (Thurs, Fri for Sat). This means we could contest a total of seven ballots.
Green fees need paying in advance and are always non-refundable against a certain timeline
Green fees need paying in advance and are always non-refundable against a certain timeline
A St Andrews Old Course ballot is drawn 48 hrs before play, and we can safely assume that this is outside any refund window! Any win in the ballot therefore will send us into a clash with which ever course we had booked that day, and we’ll a loss of the green fee unless we can get the tee-time rearranged. For this reason we don’t necessarily want to fill every day of the week up with a paid green fee and golf course. That would be designing a forfeit (we are after all setting up to win a ballot and play the Old Course)
Luckily the St Andrews New Course can’t be prebooked, and every other tee-time after 09.00 is offered present-pay-and-play-on-the-day. This is a great way of putting a placeholder into the itinerary without taking on the liability of a prepaid green fee
We try to schedule the New Course in any St Andrews swing to max out this position. If we win a ballot on the day we were going to try and play the New Course, we simply play the Old Course instead. If we win a ballot on another day, then we look to reschedule the affected course onto the day we had the New Course inked in and avoid a forfeit that way. We’ll usually try and put the New Course last in an itinerary then to give ourselves the maximum length of runway onto which we might land the rearranged round
Perversely perhaps, we’re actually hoping not to play the New Course. The reason we wouldn’t play it, is because we’ve won a ballot and are playing the Old Course instead
We don't need to make this an ordeal by 101 filtering questions! In reality there are probably little more than half a dozen things we need to know to build out a proposal. The guidance below might help you frame answers
Duration - usually best expressed as a range up to a maximum
Time of year - can be anything from a specific date range to a named season
Travel class - Faraway Fairways uses 'Luxury', 'Premier' or 'Affordable' for generic purposes. You might choose to reference the international 'star' rating system. We're only looking for something to help steer us into the right sector
Self drive or hired driver - In broad terms, self driving is normally less expensive, and much more flexible, but some folk just don't want to do it
Must play courses/ must do places - a few name checks is all that's needed